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closer to obama's $400,000. >> i think that's about right. sounds about like $400,000. >> which leaves out less than 2% of the people. >> absolutely. >> people say that's an average income. most people make about $40,000 a year. that's average. $40,000 and that's with three or four kids too. >> there's only a couple places in the country somebody would look at $400,000 and think it's extremely wealthy. >> even in washington, d.c. if you make $400,000 for a couple you're rich. >> this weekend the president's been a tough negotiator. as you said with republicans. i think he's been tough. the general reports about one meeting with boehner, quote, at one point according to notes taken by a participant, mr. boehner said i put $8 murkz billion in tax revenue on the table. what do i get for that? you get nothing. i get that for free. august of 2011. you missed your opportunity on that, the president told him. i'm suspicious of the way these quotes are remembered. first of all, i've learned this from reading lots of books. nobody remembers exact quot
closer to obama's $400,000. >> i think that's about right. sounds about like $400,000. >> which leaves out less than 2% of the people. >> absolutely. >> people say that's an average income. most people make about $40,000 a year. that's average. $40,000 and that's with three or four kids too. >> there's only a couple places in the country somebody would look at $400,000 and think it's extremely wealthy. >> even in washington, d.c. if you make $400,000 for a...
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some folks don't want to appear in any way too close to president obama right now. >> let's move on in terms of massachusetts. we got the information that ted kennedy jr. will not run. scott brown doing well in all the polls. president obama will be fully engaminged in pass pass. how is that looking? they don't have a big horse to run. >> the polls show a good chance of scott brown being able to at least have the even money to win back a senate seat in massachusetts. when you talk to the democrats, they say look, the way that scott brown was able to win in 2010 were under very special circumstances. huh a democratic candidate who was not running a good campaign. the democrats were caught unaware and very surprised. you had that very tough debate on health care. you have the vacancy and democrats say you won't have all the situations at the end. they might be able to beat scott brown in a special contest. >> always tough. you think they can pull it off. lastly it was about chuck hegel, feeling it from the left and the right. the defense built up and every time he takes a twitter, he see
some folks don't want to appear in any way too close to president obama right now. >> let's move on in terms of massachusetts. we got the information that ted kennedy jr. will not run. scott brown doing well in all the polls. president obama will be fully engaminged in pass pass. how is that looking? they don't have a big horse to run. >> the polls show a good chance of scott brown being able to at least have the even money to win back a senate seat in massachusetts. when you talk...
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you are right. national security has been seen as president obama's big strength over the past four years. he heads into a second term. all of a sudden there is the impression that he can get the role. all it takes for senators like lindsay graham, john mccain to stand up and say no. one of his nominees would not get through. in some ways if chuck hegel is going to be the person you might end up seeing the white house having to fight doubly hard after what ended up happening to susan rice. there was the impression and the white house said john kerry was just in the mix of susan rice when the secretary of state job. because of the impression they let her withdraw her name increases the pressure that they go fighting for chuck hegel even if they have to lose in fighting. >> if not chuck hegel, who? >> a lot of names on the list. chuck hegel seems to be at the top. the former top official in the defense department, if michelle would be picked and confirmed she would be the first female to head the defe
you are right. national security has been seen as president obama's big strength over the past four years. he heads into a second term. all of a sudden there is the impression that he can get the role. all it takes for senators like lindsay graham, john mccain to stand up and say no. one of his nominees would not get through. in some ways if chuck hegel is going to be the person you might end up seeing the white house having to fight doubly hard after what ended up happening to susan rice....
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you're right. in practice -- >> that means he doesn't agree with you. >> i think you make good points. the truth is the person who's going to set the policy and agenda is barack obama. he's very hands on. it's really a symbolic fight. the question is do you need a symbolic fight when you can get somebody else to do what you want just as well without going through combat, intense combat, over some of these legislative issues, especially the budget stuff right away. it seems to me -- >> what that sounds like, i want to get joy in the panel, that sounds what you hear from washington democrats, every time they are losing is a symbolic fight. you know who doesn't think it's a symbolic fight, the republicans don't seem to think this is a symbolic fight. the republicans don't think this is a waste of, quote, political capital, joy, the republicans seem to think it is worth going hard at the war cabinet of this war president. >> the republicans aren't good at distinguishing between necessary and unnecessar
you're right. in practice -- >> that means he doesn't agree with you. >> i think you make good points. the truth is the person who's going to set the policy and agenda is barack obama. he's very hands on. it's really a symbolic fight. the question is do you need a symbolic fight when you can get somebody else to do what you want just as well without going through combat, intense combat, over some of these legislative issues, especially the budget stuff right away. it seems to me --...
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what can you tell us about that sfl. >> that's right. according to a senior official, president obama has been kept up to date on the condition of former president bush. he is recovering. he spent christmas in the hospital. doctors kept him there after concern that his fever was increasing. now, the senior administration officials won't confirm who's updating president obama. karen, it's not unusual for a sitting president to be kept in the loop when this type of situation arouss. when a former president is ill. so we are being told he has been kept in the loop. and of course the entire white house watching quite closely and everyone hoping he makes a full recovery soon. doctors have said they are cautiously optimistic. that former president bush will recover. so everyone with the white house sharing that opinion. >> and our prayers are with him as i'm sure the president's are. so kristen, just switching gears here. there's been no action on the fiscal cliff in the last few days. you've got the president coming back. you've got boehner a
what can you tell us about that sfl. >> that's right. according to a senior official, president obama has been kept up to date on the condition of former president bush. he is recovering. he spent christmas in the hospital. doctors kept him there after concern that his fever was increasing. now, the senior administration officials won't confirm who's updating president obama. karen, it's not unusual for a sitting president to be kept in the loop when this type of situation arouss. when a...
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be doing right now with john boehner? and that is upsetting a lot of people in his own base for the betterment of their party by saying we're going to raise it from $250,000 to maybe $500,000, go after entitlements and do it for the best interests of the country. >> he is a pragmatist. the first two years, it was such a strained situation. when we talked to him on wednesday, everything he said was about -- he wasn't saying government has to be bigger. government has to be smarter. government has to be better. it was like the lincoln line. this is a fantastic picture, by the way. >> that is adorable. >> joe, that's one of the pictures i was talking about. >> you're letting us know, these are all exclusive to "morning joe." >> they're exclusive to "time" and "morning joe." apparently on the night that obama was -- gave his wonderful speech in newtown was the night that malia was in the nutcracker suite, and he wasn't able to see it. so he went over to the school in the afternoon to watch the last dress rehearsal. and there'
be doing right now with john boehner? and that is upsetting a lot of people in his own base for the betterment of their party by saying we're going to raise it from $250,000 to maybe $500,000, go after entitlements and do it for the best interests of the country. >> he is a pragmatist. the first two years, it was such a strained situation. when we talked to him on wednesday, everything he said was about -- he wasn't saying government has to be bigger. government has to be smarter....
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are you surprised that the obama administration hasn't stepped up the reference to sort of shield him a little bit, beings he's for all intents and purposes the nominee for the defense secretary? >> the administration has done everything they can. chuck hagel is like a man, who was like susan rice, not nominated for anything. susan rice took a pelting for a job she was not officially nominated for. chuck hagel is someone who hasn't been nominated for secretary of defense but is someone who is rumored to be that person. i think we saw an indication of what the administration was doing to, in a way to protect hagel, and i'm thinking of specifically the criticisms of hagel and what he had said during the whole "don't ask, don't tell" fight and things that -- i'm sorry, about the nomination of jim hormel to be ambassador to luxembourg back in the '90s. he said the ambassador was openly aggressively homosexual. hagel took a pummelling for a few hours, few days, then miraculously, there was an apology from chuck hagel. there were phone calls from the white house to gay groups. >> seems to m
are you surprised that the obama administration hasn't stepped up the reference to sort of shield him a little bit, beings he's for all intents and purposes the nominee for the defense secretary? >> the administration has done everything they can. chuck hagel is like a man, who was like susan rice, not nominated for anything. susan rice took a pelting for a job she was not officially nominated for. chuck hagel is someone who hasn't been nominated for secretary of defense but is someone...
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obama can come to them and say here's the tax cut for all income, $250,000 less. are you for or against it. that's an incentive for them to wait. >> the democrats still feel like they have a lot of leverage politically and strategy-wise and going into the new year is not that bad for democrats. it's bad for real americans. let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and the christmas bills are due, the average working class family will have their paycheck drop not 2% but closer to 5%. democrats see it as leverage, but it hurts real people for the short-term. >> when you talk about it, absolutely. if we go over the cliff without changing anything, this will be the end of unemployment benefits for more than two million americans. people who cannot wait a couple of months to get the money back and don't have the safety net. this is a very serious situation for some americans. on this show we have a slope and not a cliff. for some it is an immediate p
obama can come to them and say here's the tax cut for all income, $250,000 less. are you for or against it. that's an incentive for them to wait. >> the democrats still feel like they have a lot of leverage politically and strategy-wise and going into the new year is not that bad for democrats. it's bad for real americans. let's go back to the tax. your paycheck is going down 2%. everyone's taxes go up. it will really have an effect is when people get their first paycheck in january and...